Monday, October 12, 2009

I John 2:8-11

This month's Series looks at I John verse by verse.

Friday's post covered I John 2:1-7, which added another layer to the basic model John presented in I John 1. Here is the summary from the previous post:


John has added another layer onto the model he presented at the end of Chapter 1. This layer is made up of:
-God's Commands
-love
-abiding

Here is the model after this layer has been added:

If we keep His commandments, then we will KNOW THAT we have Fellowship with God.

If we have Fellowship with God then we will:
-walk in the light because God abides in us
-have fellowship with each other
-confess our sins
-be cleansed by Jesus' blood and defended by Jesus when we do sin

We will KNOW THAT we DON'T have Fellowship with God if we lie by SAYING we know Him AND DON'T keep His commandments.

We are lying if we say:
-we have Fellowship with God and walk in the darkness
-we have no sin

If we say that we have not sinned:
-we are calling God a liar
-His Word is NOT in us

If we keep His Word then the love of God is perfected in us.


I John 2:1-7 is just another layer onto a model that the new believer already knew.

Today, we will see that John is going to share something new...


I JOHN 2:8-11
"8 Again, a new commandment write I unto you, which thing is true in him and in you; because the darkness is passing away, and the true light already shineth."

The previous verse (I John 2:7) consisted of John stating that what he has shared so far is NOT a new commandment. Now, John wants to write about a "new commandment". What is this "new commandment"? We will see that John won't come right out and state it SPECIFICALLY. He is going to work his way up to it.

This verse gives us some hints:
-It is something that is TRUE in Him AND in you.
-The TRUE LIGHT is already shining.

For now, whatever this new commandment is, it is the true light that is in Jesus AND us.

John has just made a statement. Since this letter is philosophical and builds a model, it is time for John to take this statement (along with everything else that followed) through a series of IF/THEN statements. The result will be the model will add another layer. Here are John's next set of IF/THEN statements:

"9 He that saith he is in the light and hateth his brother, is in the darkness even until now.
10 He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is no occasion of stumbling in him.
11 But he that hateth his brother is in the darkness, and walketh in the darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because the darkness hath blinded his eyes."

It looks like John has introduced two more WORDS for us to understand before we can examine the EFFECTS of each IF/THEN statement. The first one is straightforward...


BROTHER
John refers to believers as "brother". The second WORD is more difficult to define...


HATE
hateth is Strong's #3404 miseo - "to detest (espec. to persecute); by extens. to love less"

We have covered "hate" in depth on this blog. However, THIS Series is where we REALLY need to understand what John means by the word "hateth".

The Greek WORD "miseo" seems to have two connotations: detest/persecute AND love less.

Remember, the MOST often quoted phrase from I John is "God is love". However, the Bible records that God "hates". If hate means "does not love", then God is NOT love. However, if "hate" means "love less", then it is possible for "God to love less" AND "God to be love".

Definitions are EXTREMELY important. WITHOUT accurate definitions, people can make the Word of God APPEAR to mean something DIFFERENT than God's intentions. Here is an excerpt from an earlier post that explains my process for determining definitions in God's Word:


Unfortunately, today most churches are a business. They don't teach God's non-contradictory Word. They teach man-made doctrines and use a book that states Jesus is NOT the Son of God. In fact, while we are here, let's look at a fundamental source of error that people actually embrace...

Yesterday, we saw that you think and speak in terms of WORDS. God thinks and speaks in terms of WORDS. We saw that WORDS are crucial. They are the fundamental building block. It would seem that if someone were REALLY interested in understanding God, they would begin with the meaning of SPECIFIC WORDS in God's Word. This begs the MOST IMPORTANT question: How do you determine the definition of a word in God's Word?

Take a moment and answer that question. It tells EVERYTHING about the way you think and speak and write...

Most people say "the dictionary". My Second Question would be: Who came up with the definitions in the dictionary? Your answer would be: a person...a "man". My Third Question would be: Are men flawless?

Is this any different with the words in the Bible?

Where do you get the definitions for the words in the Bible? Your answer: from a Concordance. My Second Question: Who came up with the definitions in the Concordance? Your answer would be: a person...a "man". My Third Question would be: Are men flawless?

Here is what I wrote on page 67 of "Modeling God":

"Unlike faith, there is no passage in the New Testament that gives the definition of grace. When we don't have a specific definition, we will begin our process by considering another source and then removing the contradictions until the definition agrees with the Bible. In this case, we will start with Strong's Concordance..."

My process:
1. Look to God's Word for a stated definition.
2. Look to Strong's Concordance and check God's Word for contradictions
3. Remove contradictions and check God's Word for contradictions

The Bible gives a definition for "faith". It gives a definition for "sin" based on the definition of "faith". (That which is done apart from faith is sin.) It DOESN'T MATTER what the man-made definition of "faith" and "sin" are. If they don't agree with God, then I'm going to go with God.

There are five occurrences of the word "fornication" in the Old Testament. All of them are LITERALLY idolatry and FIGURATIVELY adultery. Why does the Concordance define this word in the Old Testament as FIGURATIVELY idolatry and LITERALLY adultery? It looks to me like the man (or culture) that defined the word changed it from God's meaning. Do words change their meaning due to people?

"30 And he went in also unto Rachel, and he loved also Rachel more than Leah, and served with him yet seven other years.
31 And Jehovah saw that Leah was hated, and he opened her womb. But Rachel was barren." (Genesis 29:30-31, ASV)

God defined the word "hate" as "loved less"...even though the Hebrew word ISN'T defined this way. Who do you agree with? (By the way, the Greek word for "hate" in the New Testament IS defined as "loved less".)

The biggest reason that we have a contradictory interpretation for God's Word is that people have defined the key words in a contradictory fashion. Again, people are making God's Word and Will of NONE EFFECT...

(Excerpt from the post: Book Two: Modeling God's Wills)


Having said all this, John's context for this WORD is NOT "love less". If his context was "love less", then it wouldn't be ABSOLUTE and he would NOT be able to draw definite conclusions with his IF/THEN statements. It looks as if John's definition of this WORD is "detest/persecute".

Notice, it is possible for people to detest/persecute unjustly. It is NOT possible for God to be unjust. It would NOT be possible for God to initiate His detesting and persecution on someone. God ONLY moves against a person in RESPONSE to Justice. The person would have FIRST had to do something wrong for God to persecute him in RESPONSE to Justice.

When the Bible says God "hates" it means to "love less"...otherwise it would mean that God is NOT love.

This topic is challenging for me to address within this Series because I'm trying to go at John's pace. John has NOT defined "love". John has NOT defined the "new commandment". However, if you need to resolve these issues for yourself now, here are two posts that will probably answer your questions:

-Definition of hate based on definition of love
-Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated

HATETH SUMMARY
For the purposes of this Series, John uses the word "hateth" to mean "detest/persecute"...which is the OPPPOSITE of love.

Now we can take John's statement through each IF/THEN statement...


IF: he SAYS he is in the light AND hates his brother

THEN: he is in darkness

People who SAY they are in Fellowship with God AND detest/persecute a believer are NOT in Fellowship with God.

John's new commandment: People who say they are in Fellowship with God and detest/persecute a believer do NOT have the TRUE LIGHT in them.


IF: he loves his brother

THEN: he is in Fellowship with God and there is NO OCCASION for stumbling.

People who love another believer are in Fellowship with God and CANNOT sin.

Stumbling refers to sin. Here is a link to a post that looks at how God explained to Cain how sin works: Old Testament Spiritual Warfare. There is NO WAY to sin if a person loves another believer. This makes it REAL important to understand John's definition of "love".

John's new commandment: People who love another believer have the TRUE LIGHT in them.


IF: he detests/persecutes a believer

THEN: he is NOT in Fellowship with God AND he does NOT KNOW where he is going because he is blinded by the darkness

People who detest/persecute believers are NOT in Fellowship with God and are blinded by the OBSCURITY (lack of SPECIFIC UNDERSTANDING).

John's new commandment: People who detest/persecute a believer do NOT have the TRUE LIGHT in them and are blinded by their lack of SPECIFIC UNDERSTANDING.


SUMMARY
John has introduced a new commandment with two hints:
-It is something that is TRUE in Him AND in you
-The TRUE LIGHT is already shining

John states that people who detest/persecute believers are NOT in Fellowship with God and do NOT have this TRUE LIGHT in them.

John states that people who love believers are in Fellowship with God and have this TRUE LIGHT in them.

John equates having the TRUE LIGHT with Fellowship with God.

John has made a statement and then built on his model by taking this statement through three IF/THEN statements.

Tomorrow, we will see that John shares more of his objective before...what else?...continuing to build on his model by making a statement and then taking it through IF/THEN statements.

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4 comments:

Joel said...

Two things:

1) Let me know if I have this wrong:

Because God is love, when God "hates" it ALWAYS means "love less" because if "hates" means the opposite of love, then God is not love.

When man "hates", depending on context, it can mean either "love less" or "detest/persecute-(the opposite of love)".

2) I have been reading the Book of Proverbs recently and noticed it too is a philosophical book. Solomon makes arguments using causality and if/then statements. A passage that stood out to me was Proverb 4:18,19:

18 But the path of the righteous is as the dawning light, That shineth more and more unto the perfect day.

19 The way of the wicked is as darkness: They know not at what they stumble.

Compare these to 1 John 2:10,11:

10 He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is no occasion of stumbling in him.

11 But he that hateth his brother is in the darkness, and walketh in the darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because the darkness hath blinded his eyes.

jg lenhart said...

Hi Joel,

AWESOME! All of it...

Proverbs very definitely is a philosophical book AND Proverbs is written Cause to Effect...or as we have been calling it: IF/THEN.

Please continue to add your thoughts in the comments.

I owe you!

To everyone else, this is the Joel that I collaborated on with this Series. He's already responsible for half of everything that is being written this month.

However, God has been showing me more since we concluded our study...

and it appears God is ALSO still showing Joel more.

thubbard29 said...

Number one begs the question, how much LESS can God love before "God is Love" is not true?

It would seem to me that the amount of love coming from God would have to be greater than zero at least.

jg lenhart said...

Hi Tom,

I agree with you. As long as it is NOT zero OR less, then God is love.

Again, I'm trying to go John's pace with his definition of love, but you have hit on a huge point: love is QUANTITATIVE...this means there can be more and less love.

John is speaking about detest/persecute...which would be LESS THAN ZERO.

We are going to see it is not easy to love...

Thanks for the comment!
John